Jekyll 'n Hyde inside my mind, who shall I be, I cant decide......
Published on July 19, 2010 By Vampothika In Community

I cant give the name of the site obviosly, but im sick to death of trying to get rid of this site and trying to deal with

the people who own the sites where the download links are found to disable downloading master skins.

yes, just about every master skin is on this site, why cant we shut this place down?

and why are people on that site asking ME to leave and not vice versa.  I registered on that site just so I could

make a stand and say something about my fire starter skin being on that site, and other master skins as well.

 But all ive recieved back is comments like

: well its free so why should we buy it?

:maybe you should leave the site, your getting too upset over this

: oh im poor so i cant afford to buy it.

: my skin isnt good enough to be sold as a master skin, thats why its being porned off free on that sight

: and last, shutting down that site wont give me any sales at wincustomize.

Nothing but arrogance, nice hey? Acording to them, its just tuff toblerones and we just have to put up with it,

the site they say is open to everyone, and maybe I should download stuff too? no thanks. im not that kind

of person.

 

 

Can we PLEASE have something done about this site?

 

Kitty.


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on Jul 21, 2010

My point Jafo is your post sounded somewhat judgemental if the IP holder wasnt going all vigilante on these assholes...I just dont have the health,will or time.I do thank Stardock for going after some of these sites because I benefit from that.

IRB...not meant to be judgemental...but a reminder that it is difficult to protect your IP [later] if the accused can demonstrate an unwillingness on your part to protect it [earlier].  The argument will always be that the owner seemingly gives tacit consent for its existence or use in 'the wild' because he has shown no interest in its removal.

Once you 'give it away' you can't later demand its return....

on Jul 21, 2010

It is worth pointing out that some people who pirate WILL purchase sometimes.

When the cracked copies of WindowBlinds 5 broke years ago we had a serious spike in sales.

on Jul 21, 2010

and that is why it's YOUR made up world and not everyone elses, or maybe i'll join yours and go download some skins and tell my wife all about the profit i just made,

Don't be obtuse.

Buy the skin [instead of pirating it] and tell your wife how much money you now  DO NOT have.

...and please don't trivialize it with references to 'all the gold and diamonds'....instead, ask people who actually RELY on skin sales to support themselves whether $8 here or there gone missing won't affect them.

on Jul 21, 2010


and that is why it's YOUR made up world and not everyone elses, or maybe i'll join yours and go download some skins and tell my wife all about the profit i just made,
Don't be obtuse.

Buy the skin [instead of pirating it] and tell your wife how much money you now  DO NOT have.

...and please don't trivialize it with references to 'all the gold and diamonds'....instead, ask people who actually RELY on skin sales to support themselves whether $8 here or there gone missing won't affect them.

 

First off, I was being sarcastic about downloading the skin.. perhaps they don't have sarcasm in your world.

Also, so i'm being trivial by referencing gold and diamonds, yet you're the man for comparing pirates to pedophiles and organized crime??  Am i right?

Oh one more thing.. if people RELY as you put it, on skin sales, why then does stardock take 50% of the profits?  That's sound more like organized crime to me. I mean i don't have exact numbers but i'm sure stardocks yearly profit is a VERY high number, yet there are skinners getting under $100 a month?  These are the profits they RELY upon, does stardock RELY on that other $100 to put food on the table?

on Jul 21, 2010

Jafo's and Karen's arguments re piracy are in fact, correct. close down as many as you can, every time.

One must do the right thing: Just because he cannot finish doing it does not absolve him from beginning.

on Jul 21, 2010

[quote who="I.R. Brainiac" reply="94" id="2690384"]I need the end user to be able to

substitute an image if he needs to

substitute a text file if needed

 

Its about customization...the end user should have the right to make it work how they want...if the protection scheme dosnt bugger that up then maybe it can work.
[/quote]

Any protection scheme would have to be optional.  But generally if you allow the user to edit the images and the text files then you pretty much have no protection apart from the most basic system of a UseProtection = 1 line in the UIS.  Allowing the user to use their own images would be a different matter.

BTW the encryption does not alter the image quality in anyway.

Obviously there are less problems with a video dream protection system simply because I suspect nobody edits those.

on Jul 21, 2010

bubbabyte


First off, I was being sarcastic about downloading the skin.. perhaps they don't have sarcasm in your world.

Also, so i'm being trivial by referencing gold and diamonds, yet you're the man for comparing pirates to pedophiles and organized crime??  Am i right?

Oh one more thing.. if people RELY as you put it, on skin sales, why then does stardock take 50% of the profits?  That's sound more like organized crime to me. I mean i don't have exact numbers but i'm sure stardocks yearly profit is a VERY high number, yet there are skinners getting under $100 a month?  These are the profits they RELY upon, does stardock RELY on that other $100 to put food on the table?

Attempting to compare Stardock to organized crime on a Stardock owned site is most unwise...

on Jul 21, 2010

Neil Banfield

Quoting bubbabyte, reply 124

First off, I was being sarcastic about downloading the skin.. perhaps they don't have sarcasm in your world.

Also, so i'm being trivial by referencing gold and diamonds, yet you're the man for comparing pirates to pedophiles and organized crime??  Am i right?

Oh one more thing.. if people RELY as you put it, on skin sales, why then does stardock take 50% of the profits?  That's sound more like organized crime to me. I mean i don't have exact numbers but i'm sure stardocks yearly profit is a VERY high number, yet there are skinners getting under $100 a month?  These are the profits they RELY upon, does stardock RELY on that other $100 to put food on the table?

Attempting to compare Stardock to organized crime on a Stardock owned site is most unwise...

 

It was sarcasm.  But then again, stardock has people that compare people who download to pedophiles representing them.  How are my comparisons so "off the wall" but jafo just seems to roll the insanity right off his tongue and not a word is said..lol

 

Neil, i'm really not here to start trouble, nor am i looking for it.  I started in this topic by stating my opinion, which several people had agreed with, then Jafo started his tirade of insane comparisons mixed with threats of kicking people in the head if they had an opinion which he disliked.  This is the reason i've been a little defensive in my comments, so i apologize if i'm stepping on toes around here, it was not my original intent.  I enjoy stardock products and have an OD subscription myself, so i'm not trying to frown upon the company as a whole, my comments were directed at Jafo due to his comments.

on Jul 21, 2010

Yes it's a fact of life that the internet is the home/haven of piracy and IP theft and ID fraud.

It's also the home of paedophilia rings.

Let's accept them as well as...."you get rid of one site...what's the point...another will spring up in its place".

Both are pursued.

Both 'regenerate'.

It is a valid comparison.

Nowhere did I equate their level of criminality or social abhorrence....only the argument of futility which applies equally to BOTH pursuits.

on Jul 21, 2010


Yes it's a fact of life that the internet is the home/haven of piracy and IP theft and ID fraud.

It's also the home of paedophilia rings.

Let's accept them as well as...."you get rid of one site...what's the point...another will spring up in its place".
Both are pursued.

Both 'regenerate'.

It is a valid comparison.

Nowhere did I equate their level of criminality or social abhorrence....only the argument of futility which applies equally to BOTH pursuits.

LOL

Yeah both are pursued, and both regenerate and both are sexual acts on young children... oh wait, no they're not!!!!  If you think that taking down a pedophile ring, or even a single site, is the same as taking down a site that links to "master skins"  you are beyond help.  I get that a skin is someone's intellectual property and skinners have rights, but be realistic, master skins are on the very low scale on the pirating list, not that it makes it ok to pirate skins, but it's a very small issue that you are comparing to pedophilia.

on Jul 21, 2010

bubbabyte
Quoting Neil Banfield, reply 127
Quoting bubbabyte, reply 124

First off, I was being sarcastic about downloading the skin.. perhaps they don't have sarcasm in your world.

Also, so i'm being trivial by referencing gold and diamonds, yet you're the man for comparing pirates to pedophiles and organized crime??  Am i right?

Oh one more thing.. if people RELY as you put it, on skin sales, why then does stardock take 50% of the profits?  That's sound more like organized crime to me. I mean i don't have exact numbers but i'm sure stardocks yearly profit is a VERY high number, yet there are skinners getting under $100 a month?  These are the profits they RELY upon, does stardock RELY on that other $100 to put food on the table?

Attempting to compare Stardock to organized crime on a Stardock owned site is most unwise...

 

It was sarcasm.  But then again, stardock has people that compare people who download to pedophiles representing them.  How are my comparisons so "off the wall" but jafo just seems to roll the insanity right off his tongue and not a word is said..lol

How obnoxious.

You look to me to be a member whose future is in the past.

on Jul 21, 2010

There are no degrees of illegality...either it is or is not.

on Jul 21, 2010

but it's a very small issue that you are comparing to pedophilia.

FFS...the 'comparison' is the FUTILITY

Pick another type of site that refuses to disappear due to subversive popularity.

Your choice....I don't care....

Or...

Stick to the topic of the OP.

How to protect skinners' IP.

on Jul 21, 2010

Let me ask this. Who's making a profit off of our skins?

I checked some of the links and most go to file sharing sites that charge you, per year, to download. .99 up to $64.


And yes I checked. They didn't give you an option to download for free. You pay or you don't download.
So some of the pirate sites might not be making to much, but the file sharing sites are raking it in....

on Jul 21, 2010

DrJBHL

Quoting bubbabyte, reply 128Quoting Neil Banfield, reply 127
Quoting bubbabyte, reply 124

First off, I was being sarcastic about downloading the skin.. perhaps they don't have sarcasm in your world.

Also, so i'm being trivial by referencing gold and diamonds, yet you're the man for comparing pirates to pedophiles and organized crime??  Am i right?

Oh one more thing.. if people RELY as you put it, on skin sales, why then does stardock take 50% of the profits?  That's sound more like organized crime to me. I mean i don't have exact numbers but i'm sure stardocks yearly profit is a VERY high number, yet there are skinners getting under $100 a month?  These are the profits they RELY upon, does stardock RELY on that other $100 to put food on the table?

Attempting to compare Stardock to organized crime on a Stardock owned site is most unwise...

 

It was sarcasm.  But then again, stardock has people that compare people who download to pedophiles representing them.  How are my comparisons so "off the wall" but jafo just seems to roll the insanity right off his tongue and not a word is said..lol
How obnoxious.

You look to me to be a member whose future is in the past.

Boo Hoo.  I've already said that some of my comments were out of line, but they were in response to Jafo's first comments to me because of my opinion that he disagreed with, which were also out of line.  I've discussed this with Jafo in pm, as well my above message to Neil.  I can stick to the topic, provided i'm not "kicked in the head" for stating my opinion.

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