Jekyll 'n Hyde inside my mind, who shall I be, I cant decide......
Published on February 8, 2010 By Vampothika In WinCustomize 2011 Feedback

i still think the rating system should be scrapped (as it was said it was going to be) because its just being abused currently by people who get their sick thrills out of downgrading skin ratings.........


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on Feb 10, 2010

Philly0381
I'm not a skinner, but don't you folks communicate back and forth when one is working on a project or finishes it and you want to give them comments.  Somehow I can't see a skinner using only feedback on the skins download page as the basis for judgeting how their follow skinners like or dislike their work. 

Am I just not seeing the forest because of the trees that are in the way? 

 


I can only vouch for my own experiences -- I've used the WIP threads to get feedback, and pretty much all of it was very positive, but then when I uploaded, the ratings told a different story, so I have ceased to post my works in progress, so that there wasn't a build up of expectation that would get dashed to pieces when the actual unveiling took place.

on Feb 10, 2010

I can only vouch for my own experiences -- I've used the WIP threads to get feedback, and pretty much all of it was very positive, but then when I uploaded, the ratings told a different story, so I have ceased to post my works in progress, so that there wasn't a build up of expectation that would get dashed to pieces when the actual unveiling took place.

Often WIP threads and the like will attract a skinner's fans/followers [the author/nick of the OP attracts the interest] so subsequent critique can be somewhat 'rose-coloured'.  When the skin is out in 'the wild' you will attract public users [who may never comment on the Forums at all] whose personal taste/opinion may be profoundly different.

There is a very real trend....I've seen it since day one...in the skin comments.  Almost invariably the first comments will be "wow, cool skin...well done" [fan] but after the first few/half-dozen/page there will be "this effing thing is crap it doesn't even work properly".  This is a perfect example of how a 'fan' can be less than useful/constructive.  The question it raises is..."did these 'fans' even try the skin....how did it not not work for them?"

Often there will be 'trends' in ratings.... where a rating is applied not because of what...but because of who.  This is typically either overly high...or overly low. [fan/non-fan].  Mostly that all balances out over time.  If it doesn't then we look into it and check for trends [eg. drive-by].  Almost always one person will rate another's work with a spread of ratings....indicating merit, not person.  If all of a person's ratings indicate foul play they get a 'please explain'....usually from me.

In reality, over more recent times, I have seen very little issues with skin ratings at all....so few that the issue isn't one at all...

on Feb 12, 2010

Could they fix it so the mods rating is the minimum and it could only be rated "up"?

on Feb 12, 2010

umm, beauty is in the eye of the beholder with a little subjective consideration thrown in. Technical merit aside, even the mods initial rating is partly based on their subjective opinion of the submission. I don't think I need to qualify a reason for giving an 8 rated blind only one star, maybe I just didn't like the color. IMHO, a really good blind is only worth 4 stars, 5 stars are reserved for those that are a step above the rest.

oh and, JTOL, if there are people abusing the process they might be in violation of the TOS, that being the case shouldn't this have been handled with a PM to the mods???

on Feb 12, 2010

oh and, JTOL, if there are people abusing the process they might be in violation of the TOS, that being the case shouldn't this have been handled with a PM to the mods???

nope cause I dont have a case to complain about, im just asking if its still gonna get scrapped like I thought it was.

on Feb 12, 2010

Vampothika

oh and, JTOL, if there are people abusing the process they might be in violation of the TOS, that being the case shouldn't this have been handled with a PM to the mods???


nope cause I dont have a case to complain about, im just asking if its still gonna get scrapped like I thought it was.

you did say, "because its just being abused currently by people who get their sick thrills out of downgrading skin ratings........."

if that's the case....

on Feb 12, 2010


you did say, "because its just being abused currently by people who get their sick thrills out of downgrading skin ratings........."

if that's the case....


Look -- some are abusing the current system; down-rating a skin will lead to less downloads, because some people filter by ratings, but the powers that be have decided it's going to stay as it is.  Those of us who were not pleased with the current system, will just "get over it" -- nuff said?

on Feb 12, 2010

will just "get over it" -- nuff said?

me-OW!

on Feb 12, 2010

PoSmedley

will just "get over it" -- nuff said?
me-OW!


I'm sorry...sometimes I channel my mother without even knowing it.

on Feb 12, 2010

but the powers that be have decided it's going to stay as it is.

Says who?

That has by no means been written in stone.....anywhere.

on Feb 13, 2010

damn Karen,

Look -- some are abusing the current system; down-rating a skin will lead to less downloads

in it for the right reasons at least, I see.

I held back from commenting on the thread in the first place cause I don't really care about the ratings. It's subjective, meaning those that rate are giving their opinion based on their "whatever". the rating system doesn't appear to be perfect, and so what, nothing is perfect.

but it does seem to have a humbling quality and now I have an opinion and think that is a good thing. I'd even like to see the number of stars increased from 5 to 10. I think the overall rating and user rating should be in the same increment set.

on Feb 13, 2010

in it for the right reasons at least, I see.


What do you mean by that?  Throttling someone's work because you personally don't care for that person, or you don't care for something that person said in the forums about something totally unrelated to skinning, isn't promoting the skinning community, and promoting the skinning community is, from my understanding, what this website is all about.

 

on Feb 13, 2010

if i like a skin i always give top rating coz i appreciate the hard work gone into creating them, even if its not to my taste i would still give top rating for the same reason. as a novice i absolutely admire all peoples work coz it takes time and creativity and a lot of it is beyond my capability so congrats to all i say  

on Feb 13, 2010

Could they fix it so the mods rating is the minimum and it could only be rated "up"?

on Feb 13, 2010

you did say, "because its just being abused currently by people who get their sick thrills out of downgrading skin ratings........."

if that's the case....

yep I did say that, because its whats happening, doesnt mean I need to take it to a mod, and nowhere did I mention my own name.

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