I don't usually adhere to Thumper's mother's advice of if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all because I have such a high regard for free speech, but a person's gallery entry -- that's kind of like their HOME to me, it's their space, and I just think it's bad protocol to make someone feel bad in their own space.

Yes k10w3, it is their HOME, but all skinners must be able to accept comments, good or bad, obnoxious, rude or otherwise.  I know I have had to, but I don't let it bother me.  I merely try to do better, and I certainly don't respond to the comment and start this type of thing.  It is pointless and solves nothing.

k10w3 everyone has the right to their opinion regardless if who it is directed at likes it or not. And i agree 100% with lightstars comment about skinners having to be able to accept all comments no matter what they might be. If they can't then thats quite sad. A skinner should not have to put up with harrassment or deliberate nastiness but from what i have seen in the comments section of the master skin sabetour that is not the case. While some of the comments might not be all love and kisses they are not what i consider nasty or destructive.

One thing i forgot to add to my last comment in this thread is that when someone is going to release a master skin it is MY OPINION that said skins should include substyles for at least XP and Vista ( and now windows 7) to make them worth the price of purchase. Just because a skinner thinks that XP is "dead" doesn't mean that everyone has suddenly stopped using it. I am not sure of the numbers but i think i can safely say that over 60% of users are still on XP as their preffered O/S. Maybe now with windows 7 being so good that will change but it won't happen for a while and i think any master who does not include a substyle for XP in a master skin is doing the customizing community a great diservice. Like i said, this is just my opinion.

But I would venture a guess that the vast majority of those comments were made by non-skinners with no idea what they were talking about.

But getting a comment from a master quality skinner such as yourself that it's not a "Master" quality skin is far more hurtful than getting that comment from a non-skinner, and you should have just kept quiet.

And I read these forums a lot. I'm also sure it's rooted in the fact that you will probably never be a Master here.

you dont need to be a skinner to like some thing or not so if you get the latest ps3 game &  say it is not that good am i wrong because i dont make games i have not even made a comment on the skin but when this is said it bugs me. i am a fan of kittys works any way

nimbin, the reason why i dont skin xp anymore is because it was giving me trouble on my old pc. I now have a new pc with vista and soon windows 7. I will consider reinstalling xp on my vista harddrive...but if it screws up my system like last time, i will take it off.

It's all just pixels in the end! If the net went down tomorrow it wouldn't mean squat.

Having said that...I think we should hunt down Vampy and make her smoke a whole pack of cigs and drink a whole case of coke...in an hour! Wait,,,,she'd like that!  Oh well....it was a thought!  Don't sweat it Vampy!  I use XP anyway....you know...the bastard stepchild of OS's

With much respect for who you are and what you have accomplished and have done for others....

• How do you come to the conclusion that it is NOT Master Quality without downloading it and trying it?
• It's partly because of 'who you are' and 'what you have accomplished' that it did raise so much hell. Honestly, having observed you for only a few years and what you do for folks, etc., I would have thought you would have made such a comment in an email to her and gone into the reasons behind it.

When did we stop supporting one another and just start bashing each others efforts? Without knowing or even pretending to know what 'may' be behind it all, it sure looks like hunting season has started a tad early on WC.

I just don't get the way some folks are behaving. It's venomous. If the issue is with Vampothika, take it up privately. If it is with STardock, take it up with them. But bashing her in her gallery/comments...no. JUst 'no'. Everyone here who has ever skinned and have had that happen knows how it hurts. You know how much you would like to remove the comment. To say 'It's happened to me and I moved on' is bull. You didn't like it then. You wouldn't like it if it happened tomorrow.  You would want a peer, equal, or someone who's opinion may carry a great deal of weight to do it privately. If they feel they should do it publicly, it should be highly constructive AND supportive, especially if you are someone like a Master Apprtentice or Journeyman.

I saw a few of these coments as well. What if they don't run XP? IS a MAster required to run all three versions of WIndows? (What about folks still running 2000?) The day I got Vista, they announced Windows7. I could have cried. Let me say this, with respect to the plight of those on XP...

Learn to skin. Spend a couple months hovering over Photoshop and Skinstudio trying to position buttons and double checking each pixel on your corners. Spend hours on just the start menu and trying to get it to strtch just right. Spend days trying different colors, transparencies, and fonts. The fonts will drive you insane. Try to find the time in your real life to spend to just complete one skin and then you can bitch. You think going from XP to Vista to 7 is like changing the little rubberized skin on your new cell phone. It ain't. Not even close.

As for Brushes....I am not perfect. I have overlooked credits on at least two occassions and got taken to task on it. I got so caught up in the work, I left out one resource in a list of three or ten. It happens. I was not trying to pull anything off. I even felt so bad, I bought the one artist a subscription at DA. It just happens sometimes.

I haven't much to say about this thread, but the above statement bothers me....

Am I naive, or does this mean that "private messages" aren't private?     

Seems that way huh? Damn....there goes my secret plans to take over the world! Oh well....back to "Married with children"...Al may have another plan I can use.

If one or other or both of the respondents to a [series of] PMs has sufficient issue with its/their content that they feel they must forward it/them to a site admin then that is their prerogative. 

They [PMs] are certainly NOT observed by a third party....

I for one am now going to mention every brush used, i think this is something we have overlooked in gerneral as skinners.

(and basically i didnt think it had to be done, but now i know it does, ill be doing it)

i have such a huge list of brushes, i cant even count them, but if it takes me all day to hunt down the author and link it back i will...   great post po.....btw!!

and yes bilbo...i would enjoy that......i normally smoke a pack an hour anyways.........

i do feel like a bit of an ass not even recognizing this sooner and giving credit to brushes, butttt its amended as from today.

I only noticed today po (as i looked in the wallpaper section) that you linked brushes, and i was like 'omg, i should have been doing this!!" im glad ive seen it.

I'll give ya Bilbo! What else you smokin?