Jekyll 'n Hyde inside my mind, who shall I be, I cant decide......
Published on November 5, 2009 By Vampothika In Community

I would like to post my distaste to recent comments on my master skin Saboteur.  Calling my work "not master skin quality" is below the belt. Especially when it is a drive by comment and the skin has not even been downloaded. 

I think if you are going to comment on any skin, it should be at least downloaded and tested before inacurate comments and assumptions are made.

 I personally believe that if you have nothing constructive to say about a skin, then please say nothing at all.

I spend many weeks and hours on every skin I do.  I pour passion, talent, and knowledge into them. They are tested in every possible way that a skin can be tested, and only then is it submitted. The same goes for cursors, icons, and any matching accessory I make.

I can handle criticism, but only if it is constructive, and accurate based on the downloading of the skin itself.

 


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on Nov 05, 2009

messiah1

I'll say what needs said, I don't need a bunch of people backing me up to say it either.  And if you folks that are on the WC or Stardock tit don't like it, so be it.


You're not speaking your mind; you're parroting what somebody told you to say.  We all know you and some other fanboys are just delivering a message that somebody wants to deliver because he's been warned, so he's sent his pack of dogs in to bite at Kitty's ankles because she didn't stand up for one of his other fanboys in a different thread.  This is really pathetic. 

None of the negative criticism on Kitty's blind is constructive!  "It's not master quality" isn't contructive; it's just an opinion, and it shows that you don't have the skills necessary to determine what is a master skin and what isn't.  Going into detail, pointing out where something doesn't function, perhaps offering where something could be done better is constructive criticism, but one would have to have a master's eye to see those things.  What those comments are right now is petty bitterness...and I truly expected a little bit more from those who participated.

on Nov 05, 2009

I'll say what needs said, I don't need a bunch of people backing me up to say it either. And if you folks that are on the WC or Stardock tit don't like it, so be it.

I'll try one more time. Perhaps it'll sink in then:

Possible rips MUST be reported to an ADMIN via PM, email, smoke signs, pidgeon or whatever - not in public.
They will then be delt with accordingly.

Oh and PS.: Keep your language civil, or your posting privileges will be temporarily revoked.

on Nov 05, 2009

I'll try one more time. Perhaps it'll sink in then:

Possible rips MUST be reported to an ADMIN via PM, email, smoke signs, pidgeon or whatever - not in public.

They will then be delt with accordingly.

You have been made aware.  There is no need to do it via PM.  Next time maybe. 

on Nov 05, 2009

Your'e Stuff Rocks Girl your critiques are just jealous in my opinion. And btw I became interested in skinning as a result of using your wonderful works keep up the awesome work.

on Nov 05, 2009

You're not speaking your mind; you're parroting what somebody told you to say.

I'm say what I say.  Not what somebody tells me to say. 

 

"It's not master quality" isn't contructive; it's just an opinion

Yeah, that's what I said, that it was my opinion.  Then, I went back to the shoddy ss and noticed a shape that caught my attention, a shape that I have in my very own PS library.  Found in a vector pack at DA.  That's when I got angry and fed up.

on Nov 05, 2009

reply #26 is exactly what is going on, and thankyou Spence for bringing it to light.

as for brushes, this is something i will ask the mods in a pm. I know alot of people use brushes.  Thankyou for everyones support, it means alot to me.

on Nov 05, 2009

well the way i see it is that sometimes you just have to tough it up and accept the fact that not everyone is going to like what you are supplying. Part of that is to take criticism, Be it constructive or not. It's all part of the game. Personally i chose not to purchase vamp's latest skin because to tell the truth it's just not style, I would also never go out and say nasty things about something just because i don't want it. But it's the nature of the beast in this world to face up to some pretty harsh things being said. While it is nice to get that warm and fuzzy feeling when people say nice things about your work regardless if they like it or not, This is the real world and that being said you are gonna have to get used to people being nasty. Toughen up a bit vampy, I am sure this won't be the first time you cop crap from people and it definately won't be tha last. But complaining about it is only going to give those who do say nasty things more ammunition to throw at you.

on Nov 05, 2009

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on Nov 05, 2009

as for brushes, this is something i will ask the mods in a pm. I know alot of people use brushes

Sure.  Po used some the other day for his latest wall.  And he gave credit to the person that created those brushes.  The author of the brushes you used asked to be credited and shown what their work was being used in and how it was being used.  It's pretty clear cut Vampothikittymaloneika.

Again, I'm the bad guy for saying something about it.  So be it.  I can carry a heavy load, so lay it all on me.  But wrong is wrong and you've been a big proponent of pointing out people using yours and others work without permission.  Wrong is wrong, is it not?

on Nov 05, 2009

lgspence

and thankyou Spence for bringing it to light.
 

 

 

No problem

Ok sorry not being a jerk here but that gave me a

you hadn't even commented in this thread until now and she referenced a specific post by Island Dog(aka Spencer) but you still assumed she meant you?

 

Like i said I'm not being a jerk but after reading through all the other crap this amused me. Thanks.

 

 

on Nov 05, 2009

It's been awhile since I've commented on this sort of thing but, here goes.

When I have made my master skin purchases, I did so largely on the reputation and style of the artist.  Some I liked more than others, some I used more than others.  Overall I liked making these purchases and plan on doing so again some time down the road.

The thing with peoples' comments and opinions is they are not absolute, they change and some people seem to thrive on stirring things up when expressing them.  While it's no fun dealing with the negativity, eliminating it is impossible and if it were removed (by deleting destructive comments) that would only lessen the credibility of the site.

Let's face it Vamp you will likely see this sort of thing possibly here again and certainly from time to time in your daily activities.   No sense then in taking it to heart. 

I'm sure in the months ahead I'll be back to my favorite web site to do again the things I enjoyed doing here.

Later.    

on Nov 05, 2009

Comments such as this is subpar are just as valid as this is great.  Just as there is no requirement to state why it is great, there is no obligation to state why it is subpar.  It is just one persons opinion. 

That being said, there is no place here for harrassment in the form of continuous attacks by an individual or group against any member.  This is best handled by a request for help to an admin or mod if that happens.

Finally, it has long been established that rips are best handled via a PM to a mod suppling supporting links when possible.  They are quick to respond and address such issues.

Seems pretty straight forward to me.

Just follow the bouncers rules in the movie Roadhouse.  "Be nice, be nice, be nice.  When it is time to not be nice, TAKE IT OUTSIDE."

 

on Nov 05, 2009

Just a heads up for one and all...

WHAT MAKES A MASTER SKIN.

1. A site member is promoted to Master after demonstrating worthiness.

2. The Master subsequently makes a skin.

3. It is checked and accepted by Stardock for suitability.

4. Stardock sets it up as a commercial [Master] skin.

Now, does that mean YOU will like it?  Maybe, maybe not.  THAT is personal taste.

If you HAVE TRIED it and find you do not like it....say so.  Better still....explain why.  You may just prompt the skinner to do the next one more to your liking.

If you want to be an ass/arse about the whole situation then you will discover Wincustomize.com/Stardock has ass/arse - kickers for just such an occasion.

on Nov 05, 2009

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on Nov 05, 2009

Good Lord!  What is all the fuss about.  I just read this entire thread and cannot believe that someone cannot take criticism concerning their work.  I made a simple comment that I felt this was not Master quality and I will pass on buying it, and all hell breaks loose.  I myself have had comments on my work over the eight years so far that I have been skinning that were downright rude, such as "This is a piece of shit!" or "How can you design such crap?", yet I don't rant and rave about it.  I take it with a grain of salt so to speak. There are more important things in life.

Kitty, no offense was meant when I said your skin was not for me.  I just personally do not consider it Master quality, my opinion.  So please, take it "with a grain of salt" too, and lets end all this ridiculous discussion that could ruin the skinning community here at WC.  My opinion is my opinion, it was not meant to cause WWIII like this.

Friends?

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