I dunno, i gotta say apart from the ridiculous rasping in the dark knight? Christian bale was the best

Maybe it's PMS?    [e digicons]:karma:[/e]

As a guy who's turned out some really nice skins (I'm a big fan of ecoLogical), I respect that you hold this opinion and maybe guys like you and vStyler are better qualified to make these kinds of judgments than guys like me who haven't put the time and effort and money into really learning the ins and outs of developing high-quality skins, but I've always felt that it's not really fair to judge any skin (judge to the point that you feel compelled to provide any kind of criticism either by PM or in the comments section, be it constructive, destructive, or somewhere in between) without taking it for a spin, kicking the tires and all other appropriate automobile-related metaphors (where's ShelbyGT and CarGuy when you need 'em?). Like others who have commented in this thread previously, this is one of the main reasons I rarely comment on skins. I've gotten out of the habit of loading up a bunch of new skins, putting them on for a few weeks and seeing what I think. Vista's actually done that to me--I was a pretty regular skin-changer back in my XP days.

For whatever it's worth, and I tend not to stick my nose into these kinds of things, it seems as though comments in this thread at least have been really ugly (or at least unnecessarily harsh) at times. I also see KM's point that merely to state you feel that something is subpar without providing specific areas that you feel need improvement and/or suggestions about how they could be improved is not really in the spirit of this community. While I know I haven't been around here as long as many of you guys, it's been my understanding (and the reason I've hung around for years) that this community is based on the idea of encouraging skinning and promoting and assisting skinners. To my way of thinking, this means that providing criticism is welcome, but only if it is with the genuine desire to help someone improve his/her art.

That's my 2 pennies. Others may feel free to disagree (many already have), but that's what I think.

Watch your hands there, buddy. 

sorry, but this is an assumption, and is completley wrong. I recently volunteered to help you with zubaz's crayon skin.

Karmagirl, np if its required I will start including xp substyles in my future skins, I am also getting windows 7 next week, so I will have all 3 skins on board for the next master skin. The last thing I want to do is not have my skins up to your guys standards, I will endevour every way I can so that they do.

*huggles treetog* thanks darlin!!!

and yes, the brushes were an issue that has come to light, im glad it has, and have now rectified the error. Im pretty sure everyone else will follow suit.

I'm sorry to dissapoint you Sydney but Karen did not even mention johns name. so Im not sure why you are bringing vstyler into this.

and I still agree with IslandDog, cliches are going on, and so is bullying, and it has to stop.

Ive kept my responses as civil as possible, and I wanted this whole post to be that way and still do.

Everybody knows Kevin Conroy is the only real Batman. . .

Sorry, just had to stir up the poo 

Heath Ledger as joker was awesome, totally freaky like he was meant to be .. ok sorry for trailing off about movies but im blaming the alzheimers ... where am i again?

@ warreni .. put the spoon down and stop playing with the poo

cliques are inevitable...you must balance the negative with the fanboy.They are 2 sides of the same coin.If you accept any and all praise you need to accept the opposite with equal grace.

I'm not sure that there is bullying going on, in order for it to happen you have to accept it.  I haven't seen one person here in the community that is willing to allow thierselves to be bullied.

Cliques on the other hand will always happen, that's life.  Most people won't admit to it but what is commonly called a clique are friends who have similiar likes and dislikes and they provide each other with a safety net when needed.

Well, that's what I think. 

Completely wrong?  You are up and down more than a rollercoaster woman.  That's why I try not to talk at you.  I don't know how you will take it.  I think you need to stop looking at yourself as a helpless victim and start looking at yourself as yourself.  You could be a strong skinner, but you have to want it.  You've wanted to be Master for so long and you've worked at it.  Now that you are, imo a bit premature, you really need to work.  You can't put out skins like your last two and expect everyone to ooh and aaah over them.  Some people will just because that's how they operate, but like someone else said, now they are paying for your skins.  They want the best value for their money.

So there are cliques, so what.  It is human nature to gravitate towards like minded/skilled people.  That's what brought us all here in the first place.  This is a huge clique with mini cliques inside it.  But there is still no concentrated effort to destroy you.  Besides, I'm busy trying to destroy Canada so I have no time for the little people.

i will be putting out 3 substyles in the future, so that way everybody is a winner.

but as for my personality comments, well they are not accurate, because you dont know me personally messiah, and they have nothing to do with this thread.

You're right vampothkittymaloneika, it is an assumption, based on ALOT of your other posts.  Much like forming an opinion based on a screenshot, one does not have to know somone personally to know what type of person they are.  This thread was started because of one of your personality traits.  The need for attention.  I think you thrive on this type of crap.  Keep playing the victim though, its worked for you so far.

too late, you already did...

Would everyone please get over it and try to get along.  It is getting to be a bit much.

Thank you