why rating should be anonymous as it is now ? look as example  the Firefox Addons site the stars are right togheter each comment  WWW Link ... just my two cents...

That certainly would put some responsibility on the shoulders of the people doing the rating!  (and it would be a lot easier to disregard the drive-bys).

i second this, this would deffinatley stop the 'snipers'   as for the ratings system being gone, brad reckons its still going to be on the new site,....last i heard, unless he has changed his mind and its really gone now.

I've been through it all a thousand times karen, I know how it feels, believe me.

But, through the years I have learnt.........

A: You aren't going to change anything

B: Have Fun!

Easy resolve... totally ignore the ratings like I do.  They are useless and mean nothing to a true skinner. 

 

Guess I had better define "true skinner" so no one takes offense.  Merely means someone who skins to please themelves and to heck with every one else.

 

Possibly, but then folks could not truely vote on a skin without fear of reprisal, ( XX vote's one of yy's skins a 6 because of some technical merit, so xx thought it deserved a 6,  unpon seeng XX's rating on their skin yy gets mad because they felt the skin deserved a 9, yy then goes over to xx's latest skin and votes out of anger, now the fight is on. Now XX fears voting his conscience and rating on its actual merits but instead votes high to keep from getting slammed in return or so his skins will get high ratings in return.) So why not just give everyone 10's and be done with it?

 

Any concerns about a skins recent rating's can be brought to the attention of the WC staff, it will be looked in to and if foul play is at hand it will dealt with accordingly..

 

If that's true (that you skin for yourself and the heck with every one else), then why upload?  What's the point?  You've skinned for yourself, you have the skin on your hard drive...why make it available for others? 



And risk being accused of being a whiner, not being adult enough to handle the heat, or "just being paranoid"?  Those are all worse accusations than an unfairly rated skin in my opinion.  A poorly rated skin will go away...a reputation in the community (as I'm discovering) is pretty much for life, and it SURE won't help in getting promoted, now, will it?

I don't mean any of this to come off as being bitchy.  I'm being completely honest and intellectual when it comes to this issue, because as I've said, I had an "epiphany" this week...something that sort of shook me in the reasons for all this...stuff...this "being part of the community," and I'd like to put my skinning feet, philosophically speaking, back on solid ground.

 

... ok for the anonymity but what about to have the total count of how many persons voted and even better the specific number of who voted 5 stars \ 4 stars \ 3 stars etc.

it will be just few lines more respect the usual 1 line of the average count !

easy to say but I don't know if it's also easy to realize for a good site developer !

 

 

If XX votes a 6 on YY's skin because of technical merit, then XX shouldn't be afraid to tell YY about the technical merit -- YY is NEVER going to know what's wrong with the skin to deserve a 6, unless XX tells them. 

Why would XX feel entitled to rate a skin a 6 without backing that up with a quantifiable cause?  And if XX feels inclined enough to vote in the first place, then taking the effort to explain WHY they voted in a certain way is the responsible thing to do.

There have been plenty of people that think they were being screwed over and asked a mod to look into it.  Most were right and got it corrected.  Those that were wrong didn't have to wear a sign saying there were a whiner.  Usually the only way the masses know of something is when the person tells them or backs a mod/admin into a corner with false accusations and they voice it.  Think about that.  (they post,  mod told me....... or post part of an email/pm and puts the mod/admin on the spot, so the truth is posted).  Its happened.  mods see tons of skins in all the different catagories.  All being equal, which stands out?  Which deserves a higher rating?  Does the mod open the skin up to see all the coding?  No.  They apply it, check it out, if it works it gets passed(approved) and the mod gives it a rating.  How many are perfect?  A 10 rating.  Damn few.

 

what if xx didnt feel like taking the time to explain, or did not have the time to post a long explination, or maybe they just dont like the look. I do not see the benefits of public ratings. * other than to satisfy peoples curiosities.** Should we make folks only be able to rate if they post a reason? You suppose that it would end drive by ratings? or would it just give the casual user one less reason to rate skins.

Keeping some things behind the scenes for a reason is IMO quite wise.. so queries and accusations are dealt with discretly and to avoid public embarasment for all parties involved.

In the past there have been a few people who demonstrated genuine paranoia when it came to ratings.  One or two infrequent approaches to staff re suspect drive-bys, etc is fine.....some actually made a career out of it so the title of 'paranoid' would be quite valid....

In reality, though, whatever is suggested is done so in private so there is no public 'accusation' or impact on a person's reputation, and in no way affects a person's prospects of promotion...after all, queries re ratings come from ALL levels....from Citizen all the way to the top....

 

It would do more than end drive by ratings -- it would help skinners learn from their mistakes; it would give them a direction to go to improve.  It would be guidance, a purpose, a reason, rather than meaningless disappointment in the dark, with no indication of which way to go to find the light!

Right now, what you're proposing is protection of anonymous critics, at the expense of the skinner.  How is that good for skinning?

 

It is not proposed,it is in effect, and has been since it's inception. Yet  WC has still grown to be the largest and most compehensive skinning site around with a wonderful world class community to match.. I dont see the harm it has caused yet. Nor see it's detrimental impact to the skinning community.

 

 

I'm not a skinner, but don't you folks communicate back and forth when one is working on a project or finishes it and you want to give them comments.  Somehow I can't see a skinner using only feedback on the skins download page as the basis for judgeting how their follow skinners like or dislike their work. 

Am I just not seeing the forest because of the trees that are in the way?